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Hey Group,

I have a question that has been bugging me for almost 30+ years now and have
never really gotten a good solid answer.

Maybe a few of you can answer it,

and really all I want to hear from are the transgendered women. Not the cd'ers,

I fully understand cross dressing, cross dressers are into the feeling of the
clothes on skin, looking all pretty and fem and just getting into the mode and
prancing around the house, I get that having been a (former) prancer myself 30
+years ago.
But I grew out of that. Thank god.

It's nothing more than a fetish. I get that.

But what I don't get are these guys that go almost or all the way and get breast
jobs, cocks chopped off, hair removed, lipo, nose jobs, lip implants, ribs
removed and all that stuff and after they have spent tens of thousands of
dollars on clothes and to transform themselves from a he to a she, they did
nothing more than spend all that money to become nothing more than a lesbian and
are still into chicks. in my opinion if you are into chicks and only chicks,
save the money and stay a guy.

I mean come on, after all that trouble and expense at least be bi and get your
money's worth and enjoy yourself and what you've created and what you have now
become.

I myself would love to have a total sex change and finely be able to take it
like a woman, in any and all ways that a real woman could possibly take it. And
to also be able to give birth. but Like that would ever happen in my life time.
Lol NOT !

i look at myself as a woman trapped in a mans body, and i except that.
i also except that thats all ill ever be no matter what happens,(a woman trapped
in a mans body) and im cool with that also.

When I dress for going out, I'm dressed for going out fishing for men, not
women, if I want a woman ill dress like a guy and go out fishing for women. But
I haven't done that in years. I dress for the guys. That's the catch i'm after.

Don't get me wrong, I love women, but I think they all have a screw loose up
stairs and are more trouble than there worth, but most of the time nothing but a
man will do.

With me being Donna, Guys are much easier to get along and deal with and I don't
have to deal with all the moody crap you get with real women.

And I hate to say that most of the T-Girls are more moody and a bigger pain in
the butt than real women are, instead of just settling down as a T-girl and
except what they are and what they will never be, they go to the extreme with
extreme costumes, excessive make-up, get overly sensitive and overly defensive
to compensate for what they think a real women is like and for what they want to
be but never will be and try too hard to be fem.

like the song goes,
(dont push it, dont force it, let it happen naturally, it will surly happen if
it was meant to be)

If I had all that money to spend on operations and on all the clothes and drugs,
the last thing I would do is waste most of my time going out for brunch and
afternoon tea and shopping. That's a waste.

after all that id settle down into the man and woman role after i landed a guy and live as man and woman. with me being the woman of course.



Just trying to get into others heads and understand why a guy would turn himself
into a woman, just to go out and be with a woman. real or memorex.

donna

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Comment by Caroline Grace on October 20, 2012 at 9:12pm

Gosh, you have so little understanding of what it means to be transgender I wouldn't know where to begin. Anyone else willing to help out here?

Comment by Julia Giannopoulos on October 20, 2012 at 9:29pm

Wow....Just wow..You have achieved what very few people have been able to do...Leave me speechless. 

The ignorance exhibited here is beyond anything I have experienced for years.

I can't stop shaking my head in disbelief after reading what you wrote.

I'll revisit this tomorrow, perhaps by that point I won't be so shocked and flabbergasted by this.

Comment by Rachel King on October 20, 2012 at 9:55pm

Me three.

You don't get what being a woman is, do you.

You are still in the stage between being trans and being trans.

What's in-between?

Not much between the ears, apparently.

Maybe in another 30+ years you will understand that it is not about sex, at all, it is about being yourself, about being honest with the person you are.

I have a Thai wife and I love her like no other.

Oh, and she happens to be a woman also.

It's not about the sex, you see.

Maybe one day you'll get it.

Keep posting, a bit of light reading is always a tonic for me on a Sunday morning in the Land of Oz, while I await the return from Thailand of my beloved.

And cutting off your penis?

You're beyond weird.

How do you get a vagina if you cut the damn thing off?

I mean really, don't you know anything?

Oh, and by the bye, Julia speechless, strewth, you deserve a bloody medal for that, hahahahaha.

Comment by Dal Maxwell on October 20, 2012 at 10:59pm

Well Donna - You almost have me speechless.  What you wrote.........so dumbfounds me that I barely know where to begin.  But let me start by saying that your attitude is so male that it's small wonder you don't get it at all.  Why don't you just go out in male mode and have sex with men and call yourself gay?  You see, for you it's all about sex, and you are stuck in the gender binary that women have sex with men and visa versa.  But if you go out as a woman and have sex with a man, where does your penis fit it?  (metaphorically speaking, of course.  Or maybe not?)  And aren't you still anatomically male (along with that crappy attitude?)

I'm not going to say that I never wondered where it all would end up for me, but I have never found the concept of sex with men appealing.  Ever!  And that has absolutely nothing to do with my own gender identity.  Even though I am currently pretty much asexual, my attraction is to women, my romantic fantasies revolve around women, and the smell and touch of another woman is what I desire.  It's not a question, nor is it subject to dispute; it is a fact!

When you play at being Donna, you get to also play that men are only good for one thing.  My view of men is much more complicated but it doesn't reduce itself to sexual encounters.  And as for the moodiness ............. lotsa reasons. 

Let's start with the life-altering process of unlearning everything society expected of you and at the very same time, re-assimilating back into society in a totally opposite and unfamiliar role.  Add in a biologically alien quantity of 'good' hormones to that scenario about re-integration and you have touched the tip of the iceberg on why many trans women are so moody.  Let's toss in the loss factors; family members, friends, employment, religious ostricazation, and........sterotypical views by an uninitiated public.  And the level of introspection and adjustment while you are doing all this stuff gets added.................do you get now why we might tend to be a little off our game?

You, Donna, are an advanced bi-sexual in my estimation.  You like having sex with both men and women but add the twist of being dressed like a woman so that you can maintain the facade of heterosexuality.  But all things being equal, I think that you are nothing more than a self-aware crossdresser and I suspect that if you ever made the supreme mistake of having SRS (along with harboring the fantasy of having a child) then you would most likely be on the danger radar. 

Just my opinions of course, just like you are entitled to pretend while not getting it at all!  If you think thhat we go through all of this just so we can take it like a woman then you are seriously out of touch with the reality of gender identity and why so many of us are here.

Comment by Dal Maxwell on October 20, 2012 at 11:05pm

One last thing!  Nice passive-aggressive swipe at the cross dressers, drag queens and other people not up to your gender standards.  You must be so proud from your lofty perch on high.

Comment by Kathy Murdock on October 21, 2012 at 12:03am

Donna  I don’t get the feeling that you were intent on creating a fire storm, I sense that you are sincere in your question and certainly have a unique approach to phrasing it.  I started to weigh in earlier but decided against it, glad I did.  Dal did a better job of responding than I could have.  I just wanted to add that there is no transgender bible out there that I’m aware of.  Everyone is on a separate journey, what is right for you may be different for someone else.  No one asked for these desires so we each struggle with it in our own way.  If complete transition means celibacy to some that is ok.  On the same token I don’t think a verbal flogging for asking a question is appropriate either.

Comment by Monica Lorraine Beaudry on October 21, 2012 at 1:13am

You could benefit from getting to know some of these people you describe. We are all, as I keep saying, quite unique. There isn't a one size fits all except for the term "Transgendered". I can't speak for everyone but my appearance is all about me. Not to impress a man or a woman, although if things worked out and I had all the money in the world to spend on my self, my preference would still be women. I find 99% of men disgusting, but that is just my view. The way you see all of us and yourself is yours as it is for everyone else to do the same. We are all worthy of living our lives just as we wish or can do with limited support and resources and no-one is better than anyone else. This is just life for all of us and not a contest or a race. Try being a little open minded and you will find no matter how we express ourselves or deal with things we are all a bunch of really cool people.

Comment by Caroline Grace on October 21, 2012 at 7:34am

Clearly most people here on the blog site believe that being TG is about how you see yourself and not who you sleep with, so the responses you have received here are from those who have come to understand that for us being transgender is something that involves us first. Who we end up with is a secondary consideration.

No doubt in my mind that many here on this site who don't actively follow the blogs are into hookups. There is so much going on in private conversations.  Sex is an important part of life and many others, silent in these blogs, are talking about the kinds of thing you may wish to talk about.  All of that indicates to me that the transgender umbrella cover a huge spectrum of people. Clearly no one responding to your blog switchs their gender presentation to be able to sleep with another group of people. That idea is bizarre to us.

And yet none of us is locked into having to sleep with one group or another. Many of us , like me,  are celebate simply because we don't want anyone confusing who we are. Being celebate is actually not healthy for us in the long run and so I hope everyone gets active at sometime.

Brunch, tea, and shopping may not be your thing but for many of us it is that kind of routine thing we so appreciate. You might want to try it some time.

Comment by Erin Detty on October 21, 2012 at 7:57am

Its not about sex, I don't find men or women attractive in that way, I don't know why, I just wanted to have kids and not live alone. Its about Identity, some in the medical community and I think it makes sense, think that we are intersexed in the way we have the brain of a woman therefore we are, it makes the best sense to me.

I struggle everyday with what I see looking back at me in the mirror, some days I see more the woman than other days. Things have become better sense HRT but I will not be satisfied until I'm complete, surgery is where it leading for me. All my life I have seen myself as a female and this belief never changed. 

I wish I knew just what to say but I don't and if anyone thinks this is simply a choice, their wrong. I hope this makes some kind of sense to you.   

Comment by Julia Giannopoulos on October 21, 2012 at 9:35am

Yes Marie, it is indeed a shocking and also a sickening thing to read this coming from someone claiming to be from the community. 

After reading this less than intelligently worded diatribe I felt soiled by it. 

I have decided not to entertain the troll and discuss something that is inherently ingrained in the members of the transgendered community that being knowledge of the differences between sex and gender.

If this person claims not to know the difference, this person is not transgendered and is not a member of the community.

Cross dressers, gender queers, transgendered people, transsexuals and the intersexed all know the difference between sex and gender. 

This blog post by this man was not to have a question answered but to masturbate our anger for his enjoyment.

To the OP;  Leave! You sicken me by being here. You are clearly not what you claim to be.

A fraud and a amateur manipulator ? Yes. A trans person?  Hardly.

 

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