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what is the difference between a gay queen and a transsexual?

I think this issue is all about perspective. To 99% of society the only difference between a gay queen and a transsexual is a surgically constructed vagina.

I just read Janice Raymonds Transsxual Empire and the making of the She-Male. I've fought the battle to be recognized as a woman for 5 years now and have endured the 'he-she' treatment for what seems like no end in sight when I'm in my little town doing the same job as before. Now over a year post op I've decided it is time to own the accusations and when around the moogles I'll buy the gay man with a vagina pronouncement. Ok world, here I am, a gay man with a vagina who will never ever be a REAL WOMAN. Now I feel much better.

I think it is much better to simply own up to it and let them have their way. The world of men is a tough world and a woman does not have a chance with her own truth.

Debbie

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Comment by Lauren Elisabeth Tancyus on March 22, 2010 at 8:44pm
Ah Debbie, that came from the queen of radical feminism, not a man. Not that we get much better from men. I don't think feminists are our friends.
Comment by tina on March 22, 2010 at 9:32pm
Sherri depends on the feminists. But believe anyone that is radical is not a friend. This coming from what could have been the only "male" to go into a woman's study group at school and not get eaten alive. Due to fact sister was so active. Not sure if they knew something, but have the feeling they accepted me for who i am long before i did.
Comment by Rachel King on March 22, 2010 at 9:48pm
Simply answered, you didn't get to where you are by giving up.
I can't see you starting now.
It takes an inner strength to reach the point where we are.
To give in to their petty minded inadequacies as human beings?
I think not!
Comment by Caroline Grace on March 22, 2010 at 11:09pm
Is it with character, dignity, joy and hope that I go through life? Then it matters very little how others define me... I now come to this ball to dance and enjoy the music, not be a wall flower. Plan your own destiny and then make it so...
Comment by Debbie on March 22, 2010 at 11:32pm
It is not a matter of givinng up. It is a matter of accepting that I cannot change anyone else's mind when they are rigid. It is very liberating to realize that and to move on. Let them think I'm a gay queen and that I transition to have sex with men. To them it matters little if it is true and to me it matters little what their small minds think.
Comment by Debbie on March 22, 2010 at 11:36pm
Sherri, I agree that the radical feminist are not our friends. They have their own agenda and we're peripherial and only symbolicly important. It is unlikely that the radical feminist will ever accept transsexuals regardless of how we feel, act or believe. They are caught up in the system they are trying to overturn, and that is that is the common belief that biology is destiny. Until they grow past that concept they are stuck.
Comment by Debbie on March 22, 2010 at 11:45pm
Raymonds has some validity as well as serious misconceptions. Yes, we are males with constructed female like parts. I buy it, why fight it? But her main basis for saying that we are not real women is because of chromosomes and lack of a lifetime living as a woman. Yet everyone in our society gets sexed, and few ever have their chromosomes studied. If our society believed in chromosomes as much as she says we do, then the law would have already been changed to force doctors to have chromosomes studied in all newborns before assigning their sex. This is not done in any state. The doctor looks at the genitals and the nurse writes it down.
Comment by Marsha M. Marsha on March 23, 2010 at 7:02am
Debbie I admire your honesty because this viewpoint certainly will rankle many of our women here, and especially post-ops. I do not feel we must simply give up educating the public on who transgenderd people are but I also see your point and unfortunately many post-ops have yet to figure it out and that is YOU ARE A TRANSWOMAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE. Too many here think have not found a way to fit into mainstream society so they believe making all these changes will be the elixir but sorry it ain't going to happen. Anyone going for GRS for anything other than gender congrueity and closure is fooling themselves because the cisgendered world (and I know some of you hate the "c" word, but oh well) figures us out eventually and although we may change records of our gender and name our history is never expunged.

I have been a feminist for years, but not a radical one (although I did go through a few months of "man hating" I settled back to reality) So I feel feminist are our friends, Sherri, however not the radical ones. So anyway, Debbie if you have hoitsed the white flag to society that is your decision, I am still your sister, but I have yet yet to become defeated trying to educate the public, however I am learning better to whom I should have discourse with and who is not worth the time.

Hugs,
Marsha
Comment by Rachel King on March 23, 2010 at 7:27am
yeah right Marsha, like you would know!!
How dare you denigrate those who have worked so hard to be where they are.
I replied with a light hearted comment early in the blog, now it's proceeded to utter dribble.
"fooling themselves"
Complete and total shite.
I am offended and let me tell you, this is the very first time from all I cop on PE, that I am so minded.
When you have been there, come back and tell me again the tripe you have written!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Debbie on March 23, 2010 at 8:10am
Today I will do the first surgery case in the local surgery center that I've done in 6 months. I let them run me off with constant "he, I mean she" remarks last fall. Well, no more. I'm returning with a new attitude. I'm giving way I get and I frankly don't care anymore what they think or say. Since all of them do not dishonor me this way, I'll try to give them dishonor in kind. Who knows, may the ggs like being called 'sir' and the men like being called ma'am? But if they do it, I'll give them in kind and I won't blink and I won't cry anymore.

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