What Do TransMen Know, That TS Women Don't?

Comment by Marsha M. Marsha on December 14, 2011 at 4:30pm

Chloe, I also have found interesting, but not surprising, that EVERY transman who signed on with us is fulltime, but none of the recent additions are post-op. I would liken this to what my therapist once told me, "transmen transition well from the waist up, and transwomen transition best from the waist down." It appears transmen have less trouble aesthetically adopting to their gender than transwomen.  

Another observation, transmen seem to begin transitioning earlier in life.

Finally, the conditioning and possibly biological factors of our assigned sex come out despite changes to our gender presentation. Examples: transmen usually write more descriptive profiles with colourful adjectives and go into greater personal detail then transwomen who I have seen way too often abbreviate thier profile descriptions, which is very malelike.  Also, transmen tend to gravitate toward social/humanity professions wheras, transwomen are heavily into hard science and engineering (hand raised half way) which is also typical of cisgender males.

I concur, Chloe, it is so wonderful to see the different atmosphere transmen bring to the chatroom as they also are not shy to get into the conversations. Overall I am encouraged by this change and hopefully this will bring a solidarity between the men and women at Pink Essence which may resonate into the general population.

Comment by Chloe Prince on December 14, 2011 at 4:48pm

Allanna, in case you might be interested, the promotion for the Top surgery is an "either/or" deal. If you WIN it, you can select a top surgery, -OR- use the $7000 credit towards having ANOTHER procedure, such as your bottom surgery you mentioned.

This is what surprises me, that many TS women haven't caught on to.

BTW, you don't have to be TRANS to enter. Its open to cis-gender women and men too. 

Comment by Max on December 14, 2011 at 4:56pm

That really struck a cord with me. When I was a single mother, I did the occasional lap dance to get my kids what the needed, had relationships that provided food, took jobs I didn't like... I can't do those things just for myself. Now my kids are safely and happily grown and I can actually be myself... I would do a lot for a top surgery. This contest only made me realize how badly I crave this.

Comment by Chloe Prince on December 14, 2011 at 5:04pm

Hey Max, thanks for sharing... Your story seems to be a common theme by many I have talked to, both FTM and MTF. I wish you good luck!

Comment by Claire Bargo on December 14, 2011 at 6:40pm

I admit that  i originally found this site by the application for the free top surgery... (albeit i had no idea it was for top surgery.) But! i joined the site because i found it to be an absolutely perfect resource tool for me to post my transition and life day by day. however im still looking for friends.. so dont be shy!!

Comment by Jillian Munsell on December 14, 2011 at 9:14pm

As always, I value what Chloe has to say in her personal blogs, and this was no different. I was a little embarrassed that I hadn't at least 'liked' Dr Rumers information, so I thought - yeah I should do that..

Then it occurred to me. I didn't originally because it's a Facebook " Like" and would be reflected in my FB which all my family, children and co-workers see. Im not that out, and to do so would raise suspicions.

That lead me to the point of this comment. If any "woman" linked to Dr Rumers site, would it raise any real concerns with those who saw that vs a 'guy".

I put myself in place of those who view my FB and asked..  "What does a surgeon such as Dr Rumer offer in her practice that a "guy"  like Dave would want?" 

My fear and inability to be more open at this time stops me.

Jillian

Comment by Xander Rice on December 14, 2011 at 11:11pm

I don't know if its the hormones or just the fact that I'm older and I'd like to think a bit wiser than I when I was younger, but my skepticism seems to be much less now. Yes, there are things out there that seem to good to be true, but what is the worse thing that can happen by taking a chance and helping someone? We live in a world where everyday each and every one of use has the possibility of coming in contact with someone or a group of someones that won't like us or may try to hurt us just for being who we are. I find it a beautiful and wonderful experience to know that people like Chloe and Dr. Rumer exist. They are trying to help us, educate us, support us and help create a world where we don't feel so alone. I think it is incredibly brave that Chloe is out there sharing her story for the world to see. I figure hey, if Chloe and Lana can put this on PINKessence and say FREE top surgery or $7000 credit for a cosmetic procedure I'm willing to take the chance to press a button, to share my story.

Comment by Rachel Marie on December 15, 2011 at 12:50am

Yeah! I admit I giggled when u asked if its the hormones.

Comment by LAINIE NELSON on December 15, 2011 at 4:06am

Chloe I don't have a need or desire for breast surgery. I am quite happy (should I say deliriously happy!) with my breasts which I do believe are still growing past full B.

I could use some age-removing face surgery gladly; but as I am stuck forever in a min wage job I see now way to ever have that or even orchiectomy and especially SRS.

It reflects very badly on this country like many other things do; that once you reach a certain age no corporation will hire you, even small firms.

My company has people working that are 89, the only company I ever found that simply does NOT care how old you are.

Comment by Rachel King on December 15, 2011 at 6:12am

Dare I suggest, in my quite shy way, that we have an inundation of supposedly transgender women who are nothing of the not such which but are merely in a darkened room living out their fantasy nightly, and we might leave out the rest of the sordid details of what further activity they get up to.

I have wondered for the last few years of the incredible upsurge in trans women and have to refrain so many times from saying to many blogs, what I actually think.

Lucky I am reticent in my comments,hahaha.

The marvelous response from transmen is in my never humble opinion, because they are genuine in their desire for change in their lives and as has been intimated, they don't have the supposed male priviledge to lose, actually, they will likely gain it.

As a woman, I don't know if thats a bonus or a handicap,hahahaha.

 

There are so many who wax lyrical about how femme they are but not only do they post false photo's of themselves, either that or they are the spunkiest men alive but they expound on subjects like they are experts and have lived the life for years.

It's a fraud and to those who come on to Pinkessence and are honest from the outset, they will gain my respect, be they male or female, that I promise you. 

And therein lies your answer Chloe, we have a majority of night-time people, many genuine in their desire, but oh so many who are getting their nightly thrills at our expense.

I really don't like that, fair dinkum I don't.

In case there is any misunderstanding, which is the favourite trait of trans femmes on Pe, I totally welcome the transmen to this site.

I hope you set up some groups and find Pe the safe haven that the majority of us here have found.

This is a wonderful site.

And don't be fussed with negative comments, they are all part of the learning about self process.

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