autogynephelia

Comment by Patricia Simpson on September 14, 2011 at 5:30pm

I don't have much respect for Blanchard, but that doesn't mean I don't believe that autogynephilia hasn't played a part in my transgenderism (I cannot speak for anyone else).  It's more to do with the fact that he's a wretch who seems to have convinced himself of his own "brilliance."

Comment by Patricia Simpson on September 14, 2011 at 6:07pm

I was confusing Blanchard and Bailey.  I disagree with Blanchard's work for the most part, but I have no time for Bailey.

Comment by Donna Wren Davis on September 14, 2011 at 10:56pm

I to have felt the very same things you have,the urge to dress for us is unending.URGE,DRESS,GUILT,PURGE.start all over again.try to understand or try to forget,but it will come back.It could be narcissism,but a little bit of narcissism can,t be that bad,unless we hurt the one,s we love,which happens.maybe by being honest about who we are we can at least find some middle ground were we can be happy with who we are.

Comment by LAINIE NELSON on September 15, 2011 at 3:55am

So they want to make the normal vanity a "disease" and call it autogynephilia. I have no respect or use for either Blanchard or Bailey. Psychology is pure fantasy in my opinion. But that's just my opinion. After all I do have a minor in psychology, and it was enough to tell me its all BS.

 

I am vain and very pleased with the way I look after hating the way I looked for 72 years, so that makes me have autogynophilia? I don't think so. I am just like any other woman who likes the way she looks.

Comment by Joanna on September 15, 2011 at 1:06pm

Thanks all for the feedback. I know it;s a broad issue and at the end it's only theories which serve to categorize but not necessarily properly explain....Joanna

Comment by Traci O'Gara on September 15, 2011 at 1:49pm

And it's the very labels that categorize that will prove to be dangerous to our community downstream if nutbags like Perry and Bachman and their ilk end up running our country.  The labels will be used in court, backed by the DSM gurus testimony, to give the government the ability to make life real hard for us as if it isn't already.

I will never stop warning about this as long as I live....scare tactics?  Fine...turn your cheek and live on...but the APA is doing none of us any favors with letting the foxes into the henhouse to write these updates.

Comment by Bobbi Lombardo on September 15, 2011 at 9:15pm

I don't put much credence in Blancards theory because it seems to explain a phase of the internal transition.  I think that when I reached puberty, a lot of things were tied to sexual fantasy that were not before or since. Including my desire to dress.  The difference for me was that it was not a thing I did for myself at home.  I used to dress completely female under my outer garments to go to school.  I felt more like me and was able to relax in the midst of all that teenagerness by being a girl in hiding.  As life progressed I dreamt of being female, I wrote of it, I sang of it and eventually I found someone who let me live as female.  I still had to be Bob for work but not outside of the job.

 

I still found it wanting.  I wanted to be female.  It was me and I started to hate women for thier luck and to hate men for thier egos and I ended up angry and distrustful and that was when Janice found me.  She made me put that side of myself away and to seek help.  I did so and with lots of meds and many sessions I lived for 3 years as Bob but still I snuck around to dress. 

 

More years went by and more slips and revelations and more compromise but never enough.  I started having dreams of self mutilation and cancer and lots of other ways to rid myself of my male being.  Janice asked me to see a gender specialist and now I have been on HRT for 5 years I still live as Bob most of the time because I have a teenage daughter who loves and supports me but who has asked me to hold off until she gets out of high school because of the problems it would create in this small town.  This is the least I can do for someone who accepts me and loves me the way I am.  I am a woman and I always have been.  I am vane and I care for myself as most women do.  But for the first time in my life I can look into the mirror and see a woman looking back.  Well, as long as I don't look too low anyway.  Some day I will see nothing but a woman and I will be whole once and for all.

 

Namaste

Bobbi

Comment by Traci O'Gara on September 15, 2011 at 11:12pm

Adria...no laws per say will be passed by them, but what it will do is become the basis for legal arguments that any government office could use to "quiet one down" in the form of harassment or worse.  And they do have the support of the Moralist right wing, our Christian version of fundamentalists). Plus, there is no shortage of clamoring against the LGBT community coming from that group.  They do have Perry's and Bachman's ear....

Sure, my rants are a bit extreme but they are done so in order to get others thinking ahead here before the revisions can be used against us.  It won't happen this week, this month, this year, but certainly in our lifetime if the political winds blow in from the hard right. It really isn't about our ability to transition but rather the way it could be used against us in character defamation or even sanity issues.

 

Comment by Traci O'Gara on September 16, 2011 at 12:31am

Terrific analogy Cerise!

 Sure, it does sound like scare tactics, but who would have thought that our government would ever lie to us about Viet Nam, Iraq, 9/11 and Bush's connection to the Saudis, and psychological games they play with the citizens called "fear" to get us to blindly obey, not to mention having the ability to track everything you do and know everywhere you go?  The Patriot Act and Homeland Security are like blank checks for Uncle Sam to go after whatever they deem fit to go after... If someone like Perry decided to round up ALL transwomen, do you realize how easy it would be for them to do so?  No, it's not going to happen soon, but the groundwork for abuse has been set while we the citizens remain intoxicated with our comforts as some of our basic freedoms have been pulled from underneath our noses while we dozed!

We truly ought not to lie still while others define our very futures and existence without our input into the process.  (ie:  DSM-V )

So Joanna, I apologize for hijacking your thread too (seems like I'm do this a lot lately girls and I must stop that)...I just get riled up when topics appear in here that deal with labels within our community and especially when it can be linked to anything pertaining to the DSM as is autogynphelia or Blanchard or Lawrence, etc...

I truly worry for our community as I sense 35+ years of progress being squashed by a handful of bigots leading the charge against us under the auspices of their insane fundamentalistic view of life.

OK...I'll shut up....(smile)

Comment by Dianna Davids on September 16, 2011 at 8:14am

Thanks for sharing Joanna. You described me almost to a T (pardon the pun)! We should not have to apologize for the way we feel about ourselves. Natal women do not, gays do not.
By the way I have a theory about all of the haters and detractors, including the fake shrinks Blanchard, Bailey, Ablow etc. It is backed up by as much science as theirs:
Their hatred is transference of their own self loathing because they are deeply closeted transcended and or homosexual. It makes perfect sense, and it is observed all the time by psychologists and it's incidence rate is very high.

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